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Author Topic: What do Christians really think of satanists?  (Read 8169 times)
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« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2008, 08:46:51 PM »

I belief that there are rituals and precautions that are recocomanded to control the summoned entity in question. Summoners  that invoke demons from the Goetia often swear by them.
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« Reply #106 on: May 06, 2008, 09:21:40 AM »

Now now now guys, There are so many demons to worship. I for one do not worship anyone, instead i look at demons as my equals, my friends.

They are nothing to be afraid of at least.  I for one cannot understand the paranoia that builds up when people talk about evil things, be it demons or something else. Everything can be dealt with, one way or another.

Now, as a Christian or at least a believer in God i do not think Satanists are worse then any other. Satanism isn't really worshiping the devil as such. Its believing in yourself as a God or some major being or some s**t... What you should be asking is; What do Christians think of the Occult. That being more of a major bulls**t then Satanism really is.

Black Sabbaths and Sacrificial Rituals... come on, give me a farking break. For me, calling out the devil is just like calling my friend on the phone and askin him to come over.  Theres no time for demons nor angels. Smiley

If you are not prepared to meet them though or and "worship" them as a part of a cult or some religion.. then don't. Same goes for God. That farker is one crazy thing of a being.. Uptight and noid. I mean, i would... Being the Alpha Omnipotent being in the whole world. Off-realm or not. Haha.

Anyways. thats it for me. lol.


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« Reply #107 on: May 06, 2008, 09:30:03 AM »

Even you friends backstab you when they get the chance.........


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« Reply #108 on: May 06, 2008, 01:32:41 PM »

Now now now guys, There are so many demons to worship. I for one do not worship anyone,
instead i look at demons as my equals, my friends.

friends?Huhhuh
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« Reply #109 on: May 07, 2008, 08:51:43 AM »

I'm taoist christian... So the whole fire and brimstone thing isn't going to come spewing out of my mouth. I've met some satanists, some are nice, some are jerks... Just like everyone else. On a personal level, I find them to be no more offensive than anyone else. On a moral level, I feel they're wrong and my heart and soul cry out for them. But I know there's no use in crying over it or in preaching to them. So I just leave it in the hands of God and hope they find the way some day.
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« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2008, 10:38:42 AM »

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....and hope they find the way some day.

Mmmm.... maybe thats their way? Possibly?
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« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2008, 11:11:56 AM »

*smiles softly* Their way now, yes. But not the way.
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« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2008, 11:40:51 AM »

Yeah, well... depends what is the Way for you
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« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2008, 04:48:56 PM »

I'm not going to argue theology with anyone here. There is no use in it because it only creates distrust and hard feelings. Having said that, I bow out of this conversation.
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« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2008, 03:26:22 PM »

I'm not going to argue theology with anyone here. There is no use in it because it only creates distrust and hard feelings. Having said that, I bow out of this conversation.

Same here.^^
Regarding to heated discussions about whether these is a hell or heaven or demons or whether Your Way or Their Way is the argument that has been controversy since the beginning of time and goes on for centuries and millenniums on end, yet no one has the ultimate proof of who had the correct theory. It is what one believes but can you prove it? No?  undecided That is why I am anti-religion in general, as an agnostic I was raised without ever reading a bible or knowing it existed and at childhood I had never set foot in a church or had been christen/bless (or whatever they call that thing they do when someone is born), because by my father's opinion it was totally wrong to teach religion to children and I'd grow up thinking this religion thing was all a joke, mostly what I've witnessed was what was close to brainwash. undecided So being an agnostic ignorant people already labeled me as evil, not judging me by my actions but my belief and religion, and evangelic groups  had tought even my grandmother to like me less because I didn't agree in accepting HER beliefs since she had tired everything in her power to convert me to her stuff.
Just because I'm rational and realistic doesn't make me a narrow-minded person, nor does a person of faith narrow-minded due to their beliefs, it merely open doors to other opinions and possibilities. And for Pete's sake, no one has to think alike!
Sorry for ranting but I had to get this thing off my chest. There goes my two cents. 
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« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2008, 03:35:32 PM »

Religion provides a base for beliefs. it can ground you against the more "harmful" practices and can support you during times of trial.

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Rationality & realism and may lead to pessimism and depression, that said, people that can't see past their own religion's short comings are just are guilty of being as close minded, a trait combined with religion becomes fanaticism.


We need to be flexible, but not brittle. we must become like well tempered swords.... or really really sticky jello!! ^_^.


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« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2008, 04:10:17 PM »


Rationality & realism and may lead to pessimism and depression, that said, people that can't see past their own religion's short comings are just are guilty of being as close minded, a trait combined with religion becomes fanaticism.


You've got the point there, it's absolutely true once you think about it. Pessimism and depression can probably become the result of non-belief yet if the person is ok dealing with his or her problems without depending in an spiritual side then it's another story. sneaky All my peers would ask multiple questions about being liberate, always wondering about my situation and I'll just explain that (despite I ignored my "empty feeling of not having a belief while it the whole world did) I never found necessary any spiritual experience, it never seemed logical to me like science is. Not that I choose sides but I admire how both science and religion try to find answers to questions since the beginning of humanity, that's all. 
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« Reply #117 on: May 17, 2008, 07:17:56 PM »

^What Nina is saying is very true, do not delude yourself into thinking that satanists dont offer blood sacrifices, they surely do. Now of course we could get into a long drawn out debate class argument here about this and the orgins of satanists, but I hope to avoid that. Some of the users here have said that true satanists have nothing to do with these other "cults" and would wipe them out if they had the chance, however, i do not believe its fair for them to say that thier "true" satanists" on these grounds....1. They are refering to themselves and Lavey's beliefs--modern satanists are encouraged against sacrifice/violence etc... Lavey and the Satanic Church's teachings are far different from that of old. As was already stated here Crowely and his ways came long before Lavey and most modern satanism, but even before Crowely there were those who followed lucifer and performed blood sacrifices and many other dark arts. I'm just saying that we shouldnt generalize and say well I hate satanists because of violence/sacrifices etc...Because there are many satanist that, of course, do not participate in those things, and follow the "modern" satanic way. But also modern satanist must realize that they are a newer following, and that dangerous satanic beliefs and cults that followed those beliefs are amoung them and came before them, and have emerged in today's more well known violent satanic groups and the more unknown secretive cults. This creates much speculation and distrust over satanism in general. If anyone here doubts that violent and destructive rituals and sacrifices happen, feel welcome to PM me, as a deep investigator in the occult and the paranormal I can share what I know.
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« Reply #118 on: May 17, 2008, 07:31:07 PM »

Soooooooo....... its not i  hate satanists anymore its more like i hate people who are too lazy to donate their blood to the red cross......right? rolleyes
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« Reply #119 on: May 17, 2008, 07:40:45 PM »

^Dont know if i follow you there Raziel? I was using this I'm just saying that we shouldnt generalize and say well I hate satanists because of violence/sacrifices etc...Because there are many satanist that, of course, do not participate in those things, and follow the "modern" satanic way as a reference of someone saying for instance I hate them because of this reason, wasnt stating that myself or saying all christians feel that way about satanists, again not generalizing...using that as an example becuase I have met christians who do hate satanists, aswell as certain "satanists" who would readily put your head on a platter.
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