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« on: May 21, 2008, 03:14:00 PM »

Boy convicted of Goth park murder
-Sophie Lancaster



Anger of attack survivor
Darker side of Goth life

A 15-year-old boy has been found guilty of murder after he kicked a woman to death because she was a Goth.

Brendan Harris set upon Sophie Lancaster, 20, in a Lancashire park after he and four other youths assaulted her boyfriend Robert Maltby. Ryan Herbert, 16, had already admitted murdering Miss Lancaster in Stubbylee Park, Bacup, last August.

Det Supt Mick Gradwell, of Lancashire Police, said it was one of the most violent murders he had seen.
He said that Herbert and Harris, who were named when the judge at Preston Crown Court lifted an order banning their identification, did not recognise how violent the attack was. Mr Gradwell also criticised some of the parents of the boys involved, saying their attitude had been "appalling".

Miss Lancaster, a gap year student, died from serious head injuries two weeks after the incident while 21-year-old Mr Maltby survived.

   I am convinced Sophie was killed simply because of the way she looked

Prosecutor Michael Shorrock had told the court the gang, who had been drinking, had turned on the young couple simply because they were Goths and were dressed differently. Harris admitted punching Mr Maltby once in the face, but claimed he played no further part in the attack.
Both Harris and Herbert pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm to Mr Maltby, along with three other males, two aged 17 and one 16, who still cannot be named.

Judge Anthony Russell QC praised the families of both Miss Lancaster and Mr Maltby for their dignity "during what must have been a very, very harrowing ordeal".
He also thanked witnesses who had helped the victims and had given evidence in court. He ordered them to be awarded £250 each.

The judge said that he was duty bound to give Harris and Herbert life sentences but that he would set the tariffs on 28 April.

In a statement released after the verdict, Sylvia Lancaster said her daughter's death was a tragedy to both the family and wider society.

She said: "First, obviously, I have lost an adoring and adorable daughter. She was intelligent, brave, courageous and had a social conscience beyond her years.

"Her death has also ruined the lives of those responsible as well as the lives of their families.

"On a wider scale, it is a tragedy for a society which, in the past, has prided itself on its tolerance. I am convinced Sophie was killed simply because of the way she looked. She did not necessarily conform to the ideals of those who took her life."

Det Supt Gradwell said it was one of the most violent murders he had come across in his lengthy career.

He said: "It was a totally unnecessary and appalling set of circumstances.

"I do not think Herbert and Harris have recognized how violent the attack was.

"They have just done it without thinking but they have seemed to have enjoyed it and carried on remorselessly kicking at two very defenseless people who were unable to protect themselves because of the level of violence inflicted upon them.

"There was a total lack of parental control.

"I am very critical of some of the parents involved. I really don't think they have taken completely seriously how repulsive this incident was."

He said that when Harris was initially interviewed about the assaults he was "laughing and joking" with his mother.

Goths emerged as a youth subculture in the early 1980s.

Although initially used to describe a form of music, it has evolved to encompass literature, art and fashion, with its exponents typically dressing in dark clothing.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2008, 03:31:55 PM »

bastards......
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 04:48:28 PM »

Yep, prejudice are far from over. If more people decided to beat up others to death just by their appearance, I guess the world wouldn't be as overpopulated, sad but true.
And now my friends for poor Sophie a respectful minute of silence, she's in a better place.

                                         
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 09:05:01 PM »

why is it such a bad thing to look different? people act like its offensive for someone to be an individual
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2008, 02:10:26 AM »

Maybe they'll get ass-raped......... the bastards will probably love it....... the psycos. angry


And so sophie shall rest in the black shroud of death.... cry
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2008, 02:12:21 AM »

Why is it so bad? Cause people tend to fear differences, they lack education and normal parents. If their parents were normal, educated and wide minded people, they wold teach their children better than that. This way, it leaded to a most discus ting murder, sad rest of her parents life, and committing the young ones in jail for stupid, stupid thing.  angry

The most sad part is that it is unfortunately like we still live in farking dark ages, and when one points a finger screaming: "Witch, witch!" the mob still does what mob is..... this world really needs some huge disaster, and I dont mean just poor far from site people..... although, stupid people will always be stupid people, and wouldnt recognize a right choice even if it hit them in their bloody nose....

Poor girl..... cry
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2008, 08:13:28 AM »

..... cry......
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 06:14:03 AM »

I fell very sorry for Robert too, her boyfriend, to be knocked out, having Sophie hold him in his arms and seeing her being beaten was the last thing he woud see before blacking out, in an interview he described as "sickening". He had awoken days later with the only desire to see her and only when he saw her funeral was when it all came to his head. He wished it happened to him instead, he had even wore a pair of black wings in the last farewell.

Sophie's funeral
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Sophie+Lancaster+funeral&hl=en&sitesearch=#

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2008, 02:41:55 PM »

Jesus, that made me cry............  cry cry cry cry
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 04:04:50 PM »

         Now I realize why we're goth, because summing it up we are against the cruel people who judge others by their trends or beliefs. For those who had participated in the killings before and in Sophie's murder: F*** YOU, BASTARDS! Let fate punish them for their inhuman deeds, I say, let's hope they'll one day pay screaming for mercy. The dark ages were never gone, it was ever-present, eternal, carried on for centuries and somehow still pointing accusing fingers yelling "WITCH!"but you know what, my friends? They were the murderers! All of the members of the nocturne subculture should have joined together in protest and in unison say "Their were the witches all along, they were evil, they deserve to be burned at the stake!"

         Maybe one day they'll pay, maybe not. But I'm proud of being myself now more than ever, especially when an angel of darkness is looking down at us from heaven - and I just stop and wonder what she would have wanted or done.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 04:27:16 PM »

Beautiful words my friend, and so true.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 07:44:14 PM »

I am not the type to wish harm upon another, unless I'm the one doing the harming........ but these idiots deserve to be turned into eunuchs, at the very least as to not pollute our gene pool. :- l
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 09:46:01 PM »

I am not the type to wish harm upon another, unless I'm the one doing the harming........ but these idiots deserve to be turned into eunuchs, at the very least as to not pollute our gene pool. :- l

Whoa I had to look up what eunuchs was  shocked and now I realize that it's a great option. But they should be separated by the society anyways, and it doesn't guarantee to prevent other young haters running amok the world, these types of things happen everyday in many places, and it could happen to me, you, a boyfriend or anyone we know, fact is that no one is exactly safe, goth or not.
What upsets me most is how people can commit such crimes and never have a hint of remorse, shame or guilt. They never regret and act as if it was completely normal to kill and ruin another person's life, in fact they even do it for fun.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2008, 11:59:42 PM »

This vicious behavour in people is not exceptable. That video was so sad
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2008, 04:24:46 AM »

Did you watch on news how to very young boys (again) killed a girl just two years old? It really doesnt matter to that type of humans (?) they really dont need an excuse to do what they want. They simply enjoy in torture and murder, and one day when they grow up they certainly wont be normal human beings. I like the idea of castrating those and not allowing such a sadistic genes to spread ever again.

And we think we are monstrous....
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