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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 09:29:49 PM »

Well, in order to discern what the Cherubim are, I will need to go into religion and scripture, for they are mentioned there. I will start with the most common and perhaps most well-known appearance.

You may be familiar with the "ark of the covenant". If you have ever seen a depiction, you will notice two angels located on the top cover. These, as mentioned in the Bible, are Cherubim. There is also the account of the Garden of Eden, which is said to be guarded by a Cherubim. If you need, ask me for exact verses.

Now that we've established that fact, I move on to the angelic heirarchy. Both Jewish and Christian religions hold the Cherubim as some order or class of angels in their heirarchy, while a few consider them to be a completely other race of being. Nevertheless, their name can be interperted as "wisdom", which leads to the belief that their knowledge is only surpassed by God. You have said "hand of justice". If I am correct, justice to the wicked was what the Thrones were conscerned with.

However, this does not completely rule out the idea of demons. If demons are indeed fallen angels, what keeps the Cherubim from falling like the rest?

Of course, I'm no expert on angels, I deal more with demons. While I'm no expert there either, I must say that many demons like Azazel and Beelzebub are said to be Cherubim according to the heirarchy of hell.

Then again, this is from my standpoint and view. Your definition of angels and demons is quite different, though...
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2008, 01:52:42 AM »

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Cherubim
Does that have anything to do with cherubs? I think they are those the baby angels. The babies with wings in recent century art work?

Just a random thought.
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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2008, 12:25:51 PM »

(in case you dint notice, regina, izaairyn answers your question in her new topic)

A fallen Seraph...

Well, from what I know, the Seraphim stand beside the throne of God, being the highest regarded rank of angels, and they emanate such a light and glory that they cannot be looked upon by any other being.

I have never, and don't plan to encounter anything of that magnitude, and as far as I know there would be little that could stop it. If I did, though, and I couldn't exactly keep distance, I would try a combination of everything I know of that repels demons. salt, pentacles, sacred objects, the whole shebang. And if the demon is possessing a person, I would find it more neccessary to render the body being possessed completely disabled then to let the creature inside hurt others.

And no, you are not wrong; demons have different power levels, some are stronger than others. And usually, the nature of their power differs.

Basically, I don't know of anything that could really stop something that powerful.
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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2008, 02:29:28 PM »

Well, as I've stated before, the demon's goal is usually to get the possessed to commit suicide. I doubt anyone could actually deal with that. However, in cases like demonic summoning, some people are willing to serve as a semi-permanent host for the demon. The person may still be able to go about daily life, but when they willingly give a demon control, the likelihood is that the person will be practically absent from control over the body.

This can be outright deadly, as can ordinary possession. While the demon is in control, it may have no regard for its host body, seeing it as a mere tool. And if the demon is of high power, it will show disregard all the more, for the body will seldom be affected by anything. The person being possessed may die. No matter the case, it would be treated as any other ordinary possession.
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2008, 06:31:19 PM »

Hmmm, has there ever been any cases of a demon possessing a person cuz they happen to be of value? & the demon wants something from them or the body?
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2008, 11:47:59 AM »

I am a newcomer too, but after reading some of the various posts on demon- hunting and so on, I would imagine hunting a demon in general is not a very lucrative business. I am a true skeptic, I require solid evidence in order to believe that a creature such as a demon even exists. I'd truly like to see something like that, it would probably be rather interesting. For the sake of argument let me pretend that I believe demons manifest themselves, physically or otherwise, why would you want to "hunt" something like that, isn't it time consuming? Whats the pay off for you? I mean people dont usually do something unless they get some kind of satisfaction or reward for it.
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2008, 05:15:20 PM »

@Regina:

I suppose it is possible, but I don't actually know of anything like that ever happening. Something similar, though; I once came across a demon possessing someone because they were important, like a friend, to someone else (the someone else being the true target). Though, ask around, there might have been a case out there.

@sabman:

I don't mean to tell my life's story, but at first it wasn't actually "hunting" anything. It was just a sort of curiosity. However, as they say, curiosity killed the cat. In this case literally, and the cat was a friend of mine. Then for a while, I did it for "vengeance". Learning all I could and banishing all I could find. But then, I realized that that was not the answer, for "'vengeance is mine', says the Lord.". Now, I do it because I simply don't want what happened to me to happen again to anyone else. My reward is knowing that I'm doing the right thing; by protecting the helpless and fulfilling God's commands.

As to the time it consumes...It is very time consuming, but the reward outweighs that completely. (honestly, I'm beginning to find this thread even more time consuming than hunting...)

Also, I know at the moment that encountering something like a demon seems "interesting", but trust me, you don't want to do that. Please, just go on believing they don't exist.
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2008, 05:27:13 PM »

I'll take your advice & squash my curiosity this once.
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2008, 05:40:10 PM »

call me a fool but curiosity will probably kill me. Unless of course you can offer some advice to help prepare me in case I do find my evidence.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2008, 02:14:32 PM »

Well, that is the purpose of this thread; to help those who need help. You would be wise to read the first post, and I ask that you PM me before you do anything at all. Don't worry, I won't try to persuade you out of anything you really want to do.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2008, 03:40:05 PM »

Here's a random question:

Have you ever been in a situation where you took a picture of a claimed demon and had the outcome picture show anything weird?  If not, do you suspect something unusual would happen?  Or would it be fairly difficult to catch one on digi-film?

That'd be so cool grin
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2008, 04:13:06 PM »

As far as I know, demons cannot be captured on film. I don't believe they are energy based, or ectoplasmic entities (energy being electricity...). I seriously doubt that they can be captured on digi-film. Though, it would be cool. Cheesy!
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2008, 05:40:27 PM »

@ le: read the first post, actually rather impressed with the professional manner in which it was written. I will definitely pm you before I decide to seek my evidence of the existence of demons. Will definitely pm you,(if I have a chance) if I find it. Im actually interested in getting an opinion from you about what specific kinds of "tracking" devices you use? Im well acquainted with the use of electromagnetic fields in other applications of course, I worked as a non destructive test inspector for the oilfield drilling industry for 4 years, but I was the individual placing the field, with shooting boxes, 1800 ampere magnets... blah, blah, not detecting pre-existing fields.
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2008, 04:52:05 PM »

As I stated in the first post, demons can be tracked by their "omens". When I use this term, I mean any normal or paranormal event that occurs in the demon's presence. I have seen demons have omens like electrical storms, swarms of insects, phosphate deposits, and even death of marine life. It is hard to determine what a demon's omen is, but I have a sort of program I use to alert of certain news messages given on the internet. This way, I can better track and detect demonic presences. Now, if you refer to EMF meters, I don't generally use those when hunting the demonic, because I have no actual solid proof that they affect it the same way as ghosts do, and I'd rather not carry the extra baggage.

I will better explain omens in the next update of the first post, which is coming along well and should be done by the end of the week.
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2008, 01:37:16 AM »

Looking forward to it, you have very interesting work.
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