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Offline Dante

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Latin Spells.
« on: August 10, 2005, 01:52:47 am »
Does anyone know if there is a site that has spells in Latin? Anyhelp will be great.

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 04:40:38 pm »
There is a huge corpus of Latin incantations "out there", but I wouldn't really recommend them. Not because of my religious point of view, I hasten to add, but because I think the culture-lag would render them impotent. You would be reciting a language that meant nothing to you, using words that you would be unable to focus on mentally, and that's why so much "magick" is now in English. Also, if the particular wording or phrasing of an icantation is so important that it has to be in Latin, then perhaps the precise pronunciation is vital too. And as most Latin taught today is of dubious quality with regard to pronunciation (you only have to think cicero for example!) I fear that, again, you would be negating any special effect.

Finally, it is so much more difficult to remember latin! And pausing to read your script might not necessarily be a good move...

An example of a banishing:

Jam tibi impero et præcipio maligne spiritus! ut confestim  allata et circulo discedas, absque omni strepito, terrore, clamore et foetore, asque sine omni damno mei tam animæ quam corporis, absque omni læsione cujuscunque creaturæ vel rei; et ad locum a justissimo  tibi deputatum in momento et ictu oculi abeas; et hinc proripias.

(Now I command and charge you, O evil spirit! that you immediately  depart from the circle, abstaining from all noise, terror, tumult, and stench, and if you refuse I will damn you both in body and soul. And abstain from harming any creature or thing, and depart immediately to the place which  justice has appointed for you. Depart from my sight and flee from here.)
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 09:59:39 pm »
Oh contrare, DV. Latin is the universal language of magick, in theory. You can power your spell a ton by saying it in Latin. Most of the greatest demon vanquishing spells and rituals are in latin and wont be traslated. I wish Latin was taught at our school...
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2006, 11:16:05 pm »
Not a spell, but a very pretty incantation:

Visurus magam magni solis filiam,
His procedens é latebris,
Ibis Circêum liber in hospicium,
Haud arctis arctis clusum terminis.

Balantes oues, mugientes & boues,
Crissantes hoedorum patres
Visurus, vniuers' & campi pecora,
Cunctasque syluæ bestias.

Concentu vario errabunt cæli volucres,
In terra, in vnd' in aere.
Et to dimittent illæsum pisces maris,
Naturali silentio;

Tandem caueto, quando domum appuleris,
Inuenturus domestica:
Namque antè fores, aditumqu' ant' atrii,
Limosum se præsentans

Occurret porcus, cui si forté adhæseris:
Limo, dentibus, pedibus:
Mordebit, inquinabit, inculcabit,
Et grunditu t' obtundet.

Ipsis in foribus, in adituqu' atrii,
Moraus genus latrantium:
Molestum fiet baubatu multiplici,
Et faucibus terribile.

Hoc ni desipias, & nisi desipiat,
Metu dentis, & baculi,
Te non mordebit, ipsum non percuties,
Perges, nec te præpediet.

Quæ cum solerti euaseris industria,
Interiora subiens:
Solaris volucer to gallus excipiet,
Solis committens filiæ.

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 10:44:35 am »
Oh contrare, DV. Latin is the universal language of magick, in theory. You can power your spell a ton by saying it in Latin. Most of the greatest demon vanquishing spells and rituals are in latin and wont be traslated. I wish Latin was taught at our school...

not knowing the language, universal to all magick?

maybe if it's christian based...

how would language really affect the intent, besides...one wrong pronunciation and rather than banishing, you're inviting in a dozen more...

i have to agree with devious on this one...what would any entity think of a mere human stumbling through a language they didn't understand, trying to get it to do what they desire?

i can hear them now laughing about silly humans and our lazy tongues...;)
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 06:24:42 pm »
Latin would power it because it is the base language and its where is all started. Even the word magick came from latin. The very word is powered because  the letter "k" is the 11th letter of the Latin alphabet; in numerology the number 11 represents hidden energies and thereby magick. These days, its been changed to magic because they didnt want to release the hidden energies. You see, language in general effects a spell. With English growing as rapidly as it is, however, I guess it will eventually become just as powerful as Latin is now.
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 04:38:07 pm »
Hm. Well, the Latin word came from the original Greek word... Perhaps all spells should be Ancient Greek? :-)

(And it was the 10 th letter.)
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2006, 01:08:57 am »
Ack, you are right DV.
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 05:05:17 am »
I beg to differ, Phantom. Given the vast number of Mandarin speakers that populate the globe, I imagine that Mandarin would be the universal language of magik.   :wink:

But my idle little jest aside, I must caution you against placing too much importance on what might very well be no more than a mere quirk of numerology, a science that in itself,  has litte to recommand its validity. The existence of magik predates that of of Latin by millenia. So if one were to adopt your assertion as the truth, he would find himself struggling to comprehand a reality in which humankind was witness to the marvelous potential of magik eons before the common culture with which Latin originated,  were even around to breathe life and exisence into this particular language. Just my modest contribution to the topic at hand.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 04:34:19 am by maggot man »

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 05:10:36 pm »
Well seeing as every culture has some character wielding magic and quite often enough in their own language, couldn't one say that it is not the language but the sheer will?  And that "correct" usuage of the language was more of a sub concious focussing of the will?

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 05:52:58 pm »
"Its not the sword, its the swordsman"
That would seem more likely if you arent summoning a spirit or asking the Gods for help. Then theres the sheer fact that spells sometimes backfire, which would mean the the subconscience made it backfire on itself, which doesnt seem correct.
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2006, 04:37:23 am »
Well,the sub-conscious is a deep mystery that often confounds our attempts to understand its nature. It conceals hidden thoughts and desires that its conscious brother is often incapable of discerning.

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2008, 04:28:52 am »
Latin is the root of a very large percentile of modern day languages. Not only this, but also refer to what is already said.
In other words, I would have to say Latin has a higher efficacy when doing spells. Because a spaniard and a frenchmen could
both somewhat understand Latin and be able to pick pieces-parts from it.

Just a theory and inclusion on my part.
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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 11:48:55 am »
I know I'm entering this a little late, but could one not use the language of the dieties and energies that are being invoked?  Roman gods = latin, greek gods = greek, norse gods = germanic languages, asian gods = asian languages, etc.?

From my understanding, though, it IS based on intent, but sometimes the foreign words heighten the power and intent, not because they words are special, but because the one casting feels more powerful saying something in a language closer to these beings.

The words do matter, so be specific, but... the intent and the power that the words invoke and that the language invokes makes all the difference.

I tend to keep mine English because I feel my point gets across better, but I have used German as well.

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Re: Latin Spells.
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2008, 02:59:19 pm »
I think that language would only affect efficiency if you are using certain ideals in using magic.  There are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of theories on why magic works.  Most traditional magic relies on gods and the supernatural.  If you're using this as your focus, you may want to use the language associated with the major deities of your spell.  If you're using the subconscious ideal, you would probably want to use the language in which you are most well-versed or even your own language.  There are more theories and beliefs, and you have to decide which works for you.

Personally, I use ancient languages on more important spells/rituals, and English for lesser ones.

 


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