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Title: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on June 25, 2009, 12:00:43 PM
I am posting this from the National Demonology Department, with permission from my director Ronald Dressler, a fellow demonologist and good friend...

A few of you may not know me very well but I am a practicing demonologist and a negative tuned medium as are most of the members of N.D.D we are nationwide with affiliates in several states our only specialty is severe demonic cases. I find the information fascinating the formation of demons in particular most people do not understand how the beings are formed and that there are several types of demons just because we call it a demon does not necessarily mean it’s a "exorcist" type there are some that are harmless and roam feeding on other energy beings like themselves, the type most people associate with the word demon are called "occult or cosmic and  astral" demons, these are dangerous, there are cosmic and gregori. Gregori is the strongest and most dangerous this type of demon controls other types of demons and this is the kind that comes to our plane and can kill.


This is long but very interesting: I will break it in to parts of 3

The Formation and Behavior of Demons


Demons are entities made from neutral energy merged with negative energy. Neutral energy is not a native energy in this Dimensional Universe and is what many believe to be the energy of which our souls are formed. Demons are spawned by residual fragments of this energy that is left behind that bind with negative energy to form a demon.
Its consciousness is formed from fragments of memories of the deceased still within the area of death or in Hell. Neutral Energy is what our Souls are primarily made from. We call these energy neurons, and they form the pulses of energy throughout the nervous system and the brain. These fragments may become twisted with negative energy in the area to form Minor-Demons or Sub-Demons.
Before I go any further, I need to inform you of the Astral-Plane. It is another Dimension, where neutral energy is dominant and all things have either negative and neutral, or positive and neutral energy. This forms several different layers of different areas of this dimension. The top is where Heaven is thought to exist.
Below Heaven are the Greater Plains. This is where the Spirits of the departed are waiting to get into Heaven. This I believe is purgatory, and those who have lesser than pure lives have too much negative energy to be comfortable on that Plain, considering it would consist of positive-neutral energy.
Below the Greater Plains exists the Mid-Plains. The Mid-Plains is the area we all Dream in, and it is thought that this region is where creative ideas originate from as well.
Beneath the Mid-Plains are the Lesser-Plains, and on this Plain are Astral-Demons. They like to latch on to unsuspecting Dreamers that are close to the borders of these Plains. The Demons then cause Nightmares to awaken the dreamers in order to enter our dimension.
Below the Lesser-Plains exists a border between the Astral-Plain, and a dimension of anti-energy.



Part 2:


When the energy of the Astral-Plain and the Anti-Dimension merge, they form what looks as a giant fiery pit that we call Hell.
Those who have been to this area of the Astral Plain know of what I am talking about, and many refer to it as Hell. Many Demons dwell in this place and you can hear screams from the energy, which makes our consciousness split apart. Our consciousness is slowly being burned as its neutral particles are separated by negative particles binding with the positive or negative energy bound to it.
Positive, negative, and neutral energy are the three distinct types of energy that inhabit the human body. The positive keeps you in a positive mood and helps with motor functions of the human body and mind. Negative energy makes up our more aggressive attitudes, and enough of this energy in the human body can cause symptoms of depression and anxiety. The neutral energy is the pulse within the human brain that pulses throughout our nervous systems to send information back to the brain. These are the energies within Hell, and as the neuron energy separates, it binds with more condensed negative energy to form Demons.
Most demons like to run and only have basic intelligence due to the fact they like to leave this pit because it begins to harm them in the reverse fashion. These Demons then leave the pit and roam the lower Astral Plains gathering energy by creating nightmares inside the dreams of however wanders the lower plains while dreaming.
With enough energy these demons can bind on to a person, and that person brings that Demon into this dimension in the universe. These demons usually attack that person in this dimension to feed on the negative emotions it causes. As time progresses, these Demons get stronger until they become what is known as a Super-Demon.
It is very important to distinguish the differences between these Three Classes as each has different abilities. I use these differences to distinguish a small hierarchy within these Demons.
Super-Demons control and command Minor-Demons, and the Minor-Demons control but do not command Sub-Demons. This means that Demons can attack much like a wolf pack, and each will do their separate part to achieve their goals. I will discuss these goals in the Abilities and Separate Behavior of Sect-pack portion of this book.


Part 3

As well as having three main Classes, there are also six different Types of Demons. There are some demons that do not attack human beings, mainly because they have a better energy source elsewhere, however all Demons are very Territorial, and will not allow intruders without a fight.
These Classes of Demons prefer the company of their own type. This shows a division within the Demons themselves that have formed what I call Sect-packs.
If a Demon can’t find any of its specific Type, it will roam, and attack by itself. These separate Sect-Packs seem to hate the other, or finds the other Sect-Pack a danger to its own Sect-Pack. What we would call primitive instinct, and primitive thought patterns emerge from these Demons as their behavioral patterns. These primal instincts derive from the neurons these entities absorbed to create them, which would be our most basic and primal instincts.
These Instincts cause the Demons to form separate Sect-Packs, each with their own hierarchy. This behavior separates these Demons into the six types of Demons.
The six types of Demons are broken up into six various groups determined by the element they are drawn to the most. These elements of Demonic types are Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Cosmic, and Astral. These are the basic formation of a Sect-pack.



Demon types are classified as elemental types by the color of their energy:
Demon Energy Color Elemental Type
Green.....Earth
Blue.....Water
Grey....Wind
Violet...Astral
Black.....Cosmic




Description of Demonic Types: Sect-pack formation
1) Earth Demons: Demons that dwell within nature, trees and other plants.

a) Tree Demons: Demons that reside in trees and are very protective of its particular territory.

b) Animal Demons: Demons that take forms of animals and attack on site.
 
c) Forrest Demons: Demons that dwell in the ground of forests and help life humble forms to survive by attacking predators
.
d) Hermit Demons: Resides in rocks in areas of great magnetic energy fields. Docile entities and they hate confrontation, but will if provoked.
 
2) Fire Demons: Demons native to Hell that are the minions of the Grigori (Fallen) Angels.

a) Flame Demons: Collects contracted souls and the souls of the possessed.

b) Wraiths: Souls of the dammed and angered, who are allowed revenge and are controlled by a Grigori angel.

c) Warrior Demons: Guards of Hell.

3) Wind Demons: Demons that reside in the air, mostly protective of life, but some are territorial.

a) Banshee/sprite/faeries: Ones who warn of death and catastrophe.

b) Storm Demons: Demons of storms, causes massive storms when angered.

4) Water Demons: Demons that reside in aquatic areas and are very aggressive.

a) Drowning Demon: Demon that draws its victims to the water and pulls them in to drown them.

b) Black water Demons: Demons that appear as dark spots in the water and controls aquatic life.

5) Astral-Demons: Demons that reside on the lower Astral Plains and invade the dreams of unsuspecting sleepers and cause nightmares to feed them. They are the Demons that come through tears in the astral barrier from ouja boards and summoning rituals that are improperly performed. Also these demons will combine with stronger demons to form a legion.

a) Possession Demons: Demons that possess buildings/animals/objects to control a territory or clear one for a legion to reside. They will do anything to gain favor from the Grigori Angels.
b) Demon Lords: Demons that controls a legion and can twist a soul, usually the attacking entity during exorcisms.

c) Mimickers: Demons that mimic animal forms and the looks of other people close to the individual to attack. These are relatively weak demons that can possess a human being. Normally these types of demons reside in areas of ritual and burial and stay dormant until an energy source is felt or it is disturbed and brought forth. These demons follow its attached target and will not stop until it is exorcised and cleansed. These are commonly miss-classed as Earth Demons. The difference is its attacking and following the targets
.
6) Cosmic Demons: Demonic Entities of negative energy. These Demons usually do not even know they are Demons and exhibit massive aggression toward human beings that invade its territory.

a) Shadow: Demons that usually try to relive the life of the person whose memory fragments remain as well as their primal instincts. These Demons usually try to possess a human being and give the demon a sense of self. Also some shadows work directly for other demons and attack humans on site.
 
b) Tempters: Demons that enjoy feeding off of the negative energy you create by listening to these Demons, and following their demands. These Demons are very old and do not ever manifest a form for itself. They bind to the soul and cling to it until it is removed forcibly or through self-religious ways.

There are several more parts but that will be for another time;

Barek's Princess, Cassiel/Aanica
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Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Raziel on June 25, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
Sorry to burst you're bubble my fellow angel, but neurons ... well....

neu·ron [nr òn]
(plural neu·rons)
noun
 nerve cell: a cell, usually consisting of a cell body, axon, and dendrites, that transmits nerve impulses and is the basic functional unit of the nervous system


[Late 19th century. Via German < Greek neuron "sinew, cord, nerve"]
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Me thinks you meant neutrons

(Neutral energy according to science doesn't exist like what you're thinking(at least not here it doesn't)
. Matter is positive and antimatter is negative, where do we place neutral matter?

Anyway, in your supposed dimension there are two types of matter right? Neutral+Positive matter and negative+neutral matter. How does that work? Kinda like Atoms having neutrons, protons and electrons right?

Cept that in order to do this, your new dimensional matter has neutrons all the time, a spirit universe perhaps? how would that work?

Or perhaps it uses neutrinos, muons and taus.....

neu·tri·no [noo trnō]
(plural neu·tri·nos)
noun
 neutral elementary particle: a stable neutral elementary particle of the lepton group with a zero rest mass and no charge.
There are three types of neutrinos, associated respectively with the electron, muon, and tau particle, and all have a spin of 1/2.


[Mid-20th century. < neutral + Italian -ino "small"]
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Whatever the case........................)

I'll finish critiquing this thingy later kay? its not bad enough to be bashed without being looked over closely.





Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: onishadowolf on June 25, 2009, 02:51:07 PM
Here's a fun theory. Our sense of of smell uses quatum physics. You broke up the party first Raz. Now let's discuss the hierarchy of demons, which only a demon would know.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Levinthross on June 25, 2009, 03:19:20 PM
or those who take enough time to research the bible torah and catholicism
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: onishadowolf on June 25, 2009, 04:49:59 PM
And all the missing and unadded parts.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Smithkakarot on June 25, 2009, 06:19:23 PM
Cassiel: Have you ever heard of demons possessing human corpses?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Devinoir on June 26, 2009, 03:13:02 AM
Wouldn't that make them the kind of zombies like in the 'Evil Dead'?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Levinthross on June 27, 2009, 04:29:15 PM
ive heard of demons posessing a person killing ther spirit and then maintaining the bodies normal functions if that is what your asking
but other than that theres only a few cases were i know of that a human body can be re animated by a foreighn spirit soon after death
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Raziel on June 28, 2009, 12:09:54 AM
or Buffy:the vampire slayer type vamps. demons possessing humans.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Devinoir on June 28, 2009, 12:15:42 AM
Were they like that? Oh the poor vampire legend - everyone gets a bloody rape of it, eh?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: ArroganceNLust on July 23, 2009, 12:49:23 PM
Thats verry intresting- But the next question is how can one demon, the produce a child or another demon.

As is the case with my own demon Arrogace being the son of The Count Furfur. 
And Im sure all of us have heard of Legion-  In all honesty there are hundreds of people who have a legion in them.
Furfur had rule over 26 legions. And all a legion is ( A groupe of 7 or more demons locked into one host ).  So how do you the explain how a single legion can then become two. 

Just questions- For one who is verry intrested.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Devinoir on July 24, 2009, 07:16:41 AM
You're a guy, right?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: ArroganceNLust on July 24, 2009, 08:12:49 AM
Yes- male 24 and live with wife and 17 month old son. Just really cant spell at times.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: ArroganceNLust on July 24, 2009, 08:34:15 AM
Out of the Colors mentioned/ I really dont see much that match up with the demons in me.

My demons and the colore of there aura is as follows- As is there elemental and sin/ also time of there creation of when they first apppeared. Now all of the demons I have are not verry high up on the grand scale of rank or power. But each are intresting in there own perspective and in what they have shown me as a mortal with a so called passion for the Dark. I  truely want to know more about Demonology as a whole and not just Demons But Angelic history as well.  As I have recently heard about the Book of (Enoch) over the past year- and am intrested in learning what the Fallen Angels/ Nephilim had to go through.



1. Arrogance- Red or Crimson/ Thunder Storms/ Anger--- 1996 America
2. Dazzler- Silver/ Wind/ Lust--- 1666 London( Great Fire )
3. Flawed- Navy Blue/ Water/ Depression--- 1762 Germany
4. Insolence- Copper/ Earth/ Pride--- Unknown
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: ArroganceNLust on July 24, 2009, 08:42:11 AM
This Question is for Cassiel

*What dose it take to be a part of the NDD. If you dont mind my asking?  What all do you do there, and or what is your primary objective as a organization.?*  Im verry intrested in the feild of study and am compelled to want to know more on the history behind the NDD.  How long have you been around?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Devinoir on July 25, 2009, 01:15:04 AM
God...  :gun:
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Grizz of York on October 22, 2009, 09:08:47 PM
Tonight I was walking home from work as I always do, but this time it was a little different. I had six as I could count demons tailing me all the way home they stayed a good ten feet away, but tailed me none the less. They are out side my door they can't get in because of the seals around my house although I can hear them scratching at my door. The question I have is why would that many demons fallow one person, and then wait out side?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on November 03, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
God...  :gun:
YOU... :gun:   *<:) *<:) *<:)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on November 03, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
Tonight I was walking home from work as I always do, but this time it was a little different. I had six as I could count demons tailing me all the way home they stayed a good ten feet away, but tailed me none the less. They are out side my door they can't get in because of the seals around my house although I can hear them scratching at my door. The question I have is why would that many demons fallow one person, and then wait out side?
Can't answer that one!  0:) maybe you have a guardian angel!  0:)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on November 03, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Sorry to burst you're bubble my fellow angel, but neurons ... well....

neu·ron [nr òn]
(plural neu·rons)
noun
 nerve cell: a cell, usually consisting of a cell body, axon, and dendrites, that transmits nerve impulses and is the basic functional unit of the nervous system


[Late 19th century. Via German < Greek neuron "sinew, cord, nerve"]
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Me thinks you meant neutrons

(Neutral energy according to science doesn't exist like what you're thinking(at least not here it doesn't)
. Matter is positive and antimatter is negative, where do we place neutral matter?

Anyway, in your supposed dimension there are two types of matter right? Neutral+Positive matter and negative+neutral matter. How does that work? Kinda like Atoms having neutrons, protons and electrons right?

Cept that in order to do this, your new dimensional matter has neutrons all the time, a spirit universe perhaps? how would that work?

Or perhaps it uses neutrinos, muons and taus.....

neu·tri·no [noo trnō]
(plural neu·tri·nos)
noun
 neutral elementary particle: a stable neutral elementary particle of the lepton group with a zero rest mass and no charge.
There are three types of neutrinos, associated respectively with the electron, muon, and tau particle, and all have a spin of 1/2.


[Mid-20th century. < neutral + Italian -ino "small"]
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Whatever the case........................)

I'll finish critiquing this thingy later kay? its not bad enough to be bashed without being looked over closely.






Kay...LOL I will be waiting with bells on kay?...thank you for making me laugh  *<:) *<:) *<:)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on November 03, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
Here's a fun theory. Our sense of of smell uses quatum physics. You broke up the party first Raz. Now let's discuss the hierarchy of demons, which only a demon would know.
Where do you people get your information! LMFAO!! thanks!  *<:) *<:) *<:)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Grizz of York on November 11, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
Question, when Demons are around is it supposed to smell like sulfur or is my nose messing with me?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Muerte on November 11, 2009, 08:02:07 PM
Here's a fun theory. Our sense of of smell uses quatum physics. You broke up the party first Raz. Now let's discuss the hierarchy of demons, which only a demon would know.

  Granted

  There are 9 Kings of Hell.  They are:

  Bael;  Paimon;  Beleth;  Purson;  Asmoday;  Viné;  Balam;  Zagan;  Belial. 

  (Now where does Muerte get his information, thats for me to know and for you to ponder upon)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Levinthross on November 17, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
wise man you are you have found out that beeelzebub furnaces the flame for the girl scout cookie shimself :wink:
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Omnipotent on November 18, 2009, 04:28:13 AM
Liked the read. :)
Love the feeling of having my memory refreshed.
These transistions between bodies is always so .. so.. stupifying. haha. :D


Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: rave phillaphia on November 18, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
Holy Crap this is the information I was looking for!!!! DUN DUN DUUUNNN!!!! lol sorry just got really excited. How have I missed this page all these months? This makes perfect sense with what I have been researching! Can you tell me if you guys have any books on your findings and research? I would love to hear more about demonic theories of existence it would help so much for my research paper  :-D
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Thundergod on November 18, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
Grizz of york - sounds like a legion, or they are trying to confuse you, the question is why are they coming after you and how are you going to get them to go away, if you smell sulphur act quickly, maintain your sense of self, don't let them win.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Grizz of York on November 23, 2009, 08:23:01 PM
Grizz of york - sounds like a legion, or they are trying to confuse you, the question is why are they coming after you and how are you going to get them to go away, if you smell sulphur act quickly, maintain your sense of self, don't let them win.


This I know, why me I do not understand I hold religious wants or needs. Also I have nothing significant of me to acquire the attention of demon of any sort, but not only that they aren't going away. They won't touch me they just stare like mindless drones.

if anyone has some sort of information at all as to why this is happening I would love to. Because clearly I' am not a demon hunter.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Thundergod on November 24, 2009, 08:57:39 AM
Are you positive they are demons?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Grizz of York on November 27, 2009, 08:26:46 PM
Are you positive they are demons?

As far as I know they are they look the part, but I should doesn't mean they are. Even if they aren't they still won't go away.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Thundergod on November 29, 2009, 11:45:21 PM
any recent attempts at communicating?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: jordyn on November 30, 2009, 12:07:31 PM
Grizz of york - sounds like a legion, or they are trying to confuse you, the question is why are they coming after you and how are you going to get them to go away, if you smell sulphur act quickly, maintain your sense of self, don't let them win.


This I know, why me I do not understand I hold religious wants or needs. Also I have nothing significant of me to acquire the attention of demon of any sort, but not only that they aren't going away. They won't touch me they just stare like mindless drones.

if anyone has some sort of information at all as to why this is happening I would love to. Because clearly I' am not a demon hunter.
i can`t even figure this out with human males, do you think supernatural creatures would be any easier to understand?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Cassiel on February 19, 2010, 03:07:10 PM
Holy Crap this is the information I was looking for!!!! DUN DUN DUUUNNN!!!! lol sorry just got really excited. How have I missed this page all these months? This makes perfect sense with what I have been researching! Can you tell me if you guys have any books on your findings and research? I would love to hear more about demonic theories of existence it would help so much for my research paper  :-D
See the book of Enoch for the best answers, throw in some Jewish mysticism, Kabalah and practical kabalah and I think that will keep you busy as well as very informed and ahead of the others for quite sometime...

here is one  of my favorites, you will find lots of directions to go from here...

http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm (http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm)
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Carden on February 20, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
your theories do not give demons the credit they deserve.
the ones capable of possession are EXTREMELY intelligent. i hate them all with a passion, but i have to concede their intellectual prowess.
they are most certainly NOT created with pieces of human souls. five minutes in a room with one and your gut will tell you that.
and they don't need humans to enter this world. they can make their own doors in and out no problem.

the theories presented are nice and logical, but it sounds to me like you guys need to have more field trips and experience things first hand. book learning is nice and all but, in this subject, it can't compare to actually studying them up close... real close...
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: rave phillaphia on February 20, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
and you have studied them up close? So why don't you tell us the nature of demons.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Carden on February 21, 2010, 01:33:41 AM
and you have studied them up close? So why don't you tell us the nature of demons.
nature as in personality and mannerisms? ok.
they are both beautiful and hideous predators. they hate humanity with a passion that has been brewing for countless millennia. they are experts in both rhetoric and deception. they can zone in on your weaknesses quickly and exploit them without mercy. their favorite trick is to make you doubt their existence. they do all share a weakness and that is pride. they think so highly of themselves that, if you pay close enough attention and can make it far enough, they will give themselves away.  they have a cold feeling to them. not temperature (though they have been known to give me chills), but just a blatant lack of humanity; learned or natural. they like dark places that not many people pass through. this is where they set up a "nest" of sorts and store negative energy there. they strike out from this central location. occasionally, a higher one will be able to open a portal in their "nest" to let lower ones through.
they typically cannot stand nature (and the feeling is mutual) so their hiding places are man-made.
they have been known to attack human spirits and feed on them. in rare cases, they will keep a human spirit and hold it prisoner for various purposes. one that i experienced was that it disguised the spirit of a young girl to look like it and used it as a decoy when we were trying to flush it out of hiding.
i don't claim to be omniscient on the subject and i'm always looking to learn more. but i know how they work, how they think, and how to deal with them.
what they are made of is still kind of a mystery to me. i like kube's idea in the "can you kill a demon?" thread. it seems to be the most logical.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Zalnard on February 22, 2010, 07:52:03 AM
so if a person could successfully fuse so to speak enough negative energy with their own they could become a demon??
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Carden on February 22, 2010, 12:06:01 PM
no. your soul already has its form. you would probably just become a horrible person.
a human soul remains a human soul no matter if it's positive or negative.
it's like the X and Y chromosomes in human reproduction. in order to be male, a baby must have the Y chromosome added right at conception.
and for those of you that will inevitably bring up changing gender via gene therapy: you still retain the Y chromosome.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Zalnard on February 22, 2010, 12:44:38 PM
alright when i was reading that part that came into my head and kinda stuck
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Omnipotent on March 06, 2010, 05:18:07 PM
so if a person could successfully fuse so to speak enough negative energy with their own they could become a demon??

Now, this post of mine will probably get flamed here. But a person who is quite powerful, spiritwise, soul.. and so on, could easily best a demon. Hence the free will and so on, given to most of the people here.
Specially if you manage to get the demon in your own mindscape. People overestimate the power of demons. Fear them.

Even though, im not telling you .. to go ramblin off unprepared, fighting off demons. Hell, you probably wouldn't last a minute.

Disregard what i said, Just know that you could become quite powerful if you desire it.
 Regardless of good and evil. Everything has its weakness. Counterparts.


-Omni
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Carden on March 06, 2010, 09:13:58 PM
so if a person could successfully fuse so to speak enough negative energy with their own they could become a demon??

Now, this post of mine will probably get flamed here. But a person who is quite powerful, spiritwise, soul.. and so on, could easily best a demon. Hence the free will and so on, given to most of the people here.
Specially if you manage to get the demon in your own mindscape. People overestimate the power of demons. Fear them.

Even though, im not telling you .. to go ramblin off unprepared, fighting off demons. Hell, you probably wouldn't last a minute.

Disregard what i said, Just know that you could become quite powerful if you desire it.
 Regardless of good and evil. Everything has its weakness. Counterparts.


-Omni

no flames from me. we're on the same page.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Zalnard on March 31, 2010, 03:15:20 AM
so if a person could successfully fuse so to speak enough negative energy with their own they could become a demon??
a person who is quite powerful, spiritwise, soul.. and so on, could easily best a demon. Hence the free will and so on, given to most of the people here.
Specially if you manage to get the demon in your own mindscape.

-Omni

is there possibly any advice on how one would go about this then
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Carden on March 31, 2010, 08:56:14 PM
funny you should ask that...
i actually did just that the other night.

basically, you gotta be able to dream walk (which i do accidentally quite often so i have no idea how you would do it on purpose).
find the demon, engage it in a fight and keep it busy as you gradually retreat back into your own dreamscape. from there, you can destroy it any way you choose because you are God in your own mind.

the trick is to actually make it back.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: jordyn on April 01, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
so if a person could successfully fuse so to speak enough negative energy with their own they could become a demon??
a person who is quite powerful, spiritwise, soul.. and so on, could easily best a demon. Hence the free will and so on, given to most of the people here.
Specially if you manage to get the demon in your own mindscape.

-Omni

is there possibly any advice on how one would go about this then

know that you're greater and more powerful than any of their tricks.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: KubeSix on April 02, 2010, 01:02:12 AM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: jordyn on April 02, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.

without our belief, they're just our nightmares.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Muerte on April 04, 2010, 02:24:45 AM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.

without our belief, they're just our nightmares.

  That's the best way to put it.  After all, what power does anything have but what one provides it with.
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: jordyn on April 06, 2010, 07:36:58 AM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.

without our belief, they're just our nightmares.

  That's the best way to put it.  After all, what power does anything have but what one provides it with.

this can apply to human as well as non human. 
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Muerte on April 06, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.

without our belief, they're just our nightmares.


  That's the best way to put it.  After all, what power does anything have but what one provides it with.

this can apply to human as well as non human. 

    Precisely.  Hence the saying "Misery loves Company"
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: LeXtruX on April 07, 2010, 08:39:22 AM
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What jordyn said.

You're in your environment, your habitat, your realm; you've got the advantage.

without our belief, they're just our nightmares.


  That's the best way to put it.  After all, what power does anything have but what one provides it with.

this can apply to human as well as non human. 

    Precisely.  Hence the saying "Misery loves Company"

I'm not sure what that saying has anything to do with the above (so the primary reason of my post is asking an explanation) but the saying is correct, it never comes alone
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: Muerte on April 08, 2010, 12:48:44 AM
  Misery loves company.

  A woman who endures abuse for years and never leaves her husband.

  A worker who allows his/her superior to consistently take credit for his/her work.

  These people know that letting others take advantage of them is wrong, but deep down they love the treatment, sick as that may seem.  My comment as to others having only the amount of power you allow them to have is still concurrent with the statement Misery loves Company.  Does it make sense now?
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: LeXtruX on April 08, 2010, 04:54:07 AM
  Misery loves company.

  A woman who endures abuse for years and never leaves her husband.

  A worker who allows his/her superior to consistently take credit for his/her work.

  These people know that letting others take advantage of them is wrong, but deep down they love the treatment, sick as that may seem.  My comment as to others having only the amount of power you allow them to have is still concurrent with the statement Misery loves Company.  Does it make sense now?

if you look at it like that yea^^
Title: Re: The Formation and Behavior of Demons
Post by: tubbs_333 on April 08, 2010, 11:47:02 AM
I dont think its just that they come to ( i cant find a better word to use) 'haunt' people because they themselves are troubled. It may hinder them in getting rid of Demons, but i dont think it would make them more attractive to demons because they i wouldnt have thought they necessarily choose the weak to prey on specificaly. There may be greater victories to gain by making someone very firm in their belief turn and doubt.

I believe that Demons exist and are extremely knowledgable. They know your every weakness and sin, and as stated on the previous page they can exploit this. I beleive you need great faith to be able to overcome one. Whether that be faith in G-d or a very strong sense of self belief ... this would be dependant on your personal beliefs.

One thing that is for sure though. Demons cause a great deal of suffering, are not overcome easily and can only be beaten if you have unshakable faith that you are stronger.

 :-)